Showing posts with label IRA. Show all posts
Showing posts with label IRA. Show all posts

Friday, 18 January 2019

Why hasn't Corbyn condemned the IRA?

Corbyn generally sticks to the mantra that he condems all violence.


However in in 1994 Jeremy Corbyn signed a motion that condemned IRA violence.
Jeremy Corbyn signed a motion in the House of Commons that condemned IRA violence and "extended its sympathy to the relatives of those murdered".

The Leader of the Labour Party supported an early day motion put forward by Labour MP David Winnick to commemorate the victims of the IRA bombing in Birmingham in 1974.  
The motion was tabled on the 20 year anniversary of the attack that killed 21 people and injured 182 others and was signed by Mr Corbyn in November 1994.


So in answer to the question

Why hasn't Corbyn condemned the IRA?

He has.



LINKS
Independent: Jeremy Corbyn signed a motion that condemned IRA violence in 1994

Thursday, 13 December 2018

Tory media Myths about Corbyn




OMG I’ve never seen so much rubbish written trying to demean someone you say has no chance of being elected. OK Lets break it down shall we … to the facts 

1.     Corbyn is unelectable ~ if he is then what are you worried about? The press will leave him alone, Cameron won’t bother telling any more lies about him, because there’s no point he’s not a threat. Good so that’s that one done.  More here: http://garysoapbox.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/thatcher-was-deemed-unelectable.html

2.     Corbyn talked to the IRA ~ He did, it’s no secret it was all out in the open, not hidden. Whereas Thatcher was talking to them long before, behind closed doors, whilst claiming “We don’t talk to terrorists”.  More here:  http://garysoapbox.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/corbyns-talks-with-ira.html

3.     Corbyn has never condemned the IRA bombings ~ He did, he’s always been against violence and war and he’s always claimed and been proven correct so far. That the only way to resolve things is to get people talking. He said this about IRA bombings “I condemn all bombing, it is not a good idea, and it is terrible what happened.”

4.     Corbyn said Bin Ladins death was a tragedy ~ NO HE DIDN’T what he actually said was ‘There was no attempt whatsoever that I can see to arrest him, to put him on trial, to go through that process. ‘This was an assassination attempt, and is yet another tragedy, upon a tragedy, upon a tragedy. The World Trade Centre was a tragedy, the attack on Afghanistan was a tragedy, the war in Iraq was a tragedy. Tens of thousands of people have died. Torture has come back on to the world stage, been canonised virtually into law by Guantanamo and Bagram.’ ‘Can’t we learn some lessons over this?’  more here http://garysoapbox.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/what-jeremy-corbyn-actually-said-about.html

5.     Corbyn didn’t bow enough ~ This one was so ridiculous that I almost didn’t cover it. Suffice it to say that whilst the other BOWING politicians were all gorging themselves at a banquet. Corbyn stayed outside and applauded the veterans, he then went onto the rememberance service in his own constituency. I expect the others were still eating pudding when he got there.  http://garysoapbox.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/corbyn-knows-right-respect.html  http://garysoapbox.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-man-didnt-bow.html http://garysoapbox.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/did-jeremy-corbyn-bow-at-cenotaph.html

6.     Corbyn was a supporter of Tony Benn ~ Er …. Yes he was and your point is?  http://garysoapbox.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/corbyn-was-supporter-of-tony-benn.html

7.     Corbyn poses a national security threat ~ Cameron has left the UK without a carrier force for over a decade or will have by 2020 and the F35 wont be ready by 2020 (That’s the aircraft that goes on the carriers) and Corbyn is a security threat. You really couldn’t make it up.  http://garysoapbox.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/jeremy-corbyn-poses-national-security.html

8.     Corbyn hasn’t got a credible economics policy ~ Hes got one that’s backed by pretty much every major economist around. The Tories have a better one? …. Which is why they have increased the national debt by nearly 70% since taking over and Lost the country its triple AAA rating. Hmmmm.  http://garysoapbox.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/the-tories-failed-promises-debt.html

I think Id better stop.

Sunday, 21 May 2017

The Tories Very Own "Actual" IRA Member.

As the poll ratings narrow there has been an upsurge of posts to discredit Corbyn. The one enjoying the most popularity is the Myth that Corbyn was an IRA sympathiser. So much misinformation has been published about it its understandable why people still fall for it.


Strangely though we haven't heard much of the Tory who was actually a member of the IRA. Yes I know what your thinking and I thought exactly the same, must be rubbish, so I checked and no its not, the Tories actually have an ex IRA member, who was a cabinet minister but resigned after being exposed and is now a Tory Councillor.

Gatland was born Maria McGuire was not just any member of the IRA but a gun carrying active service member as she has admitted herself.

So when your posting rubbish memes and misinformation about Corbyn who did no more than talk to Sinn Fein in an attempt to help the peace process, spare a thought for the Tories very own actual IRA member. Maria Gatland or Maria McGuire as she was known in the IRA.
"I agreed with the shooting of British soldiers and believed the more who were killed the better." ~ Maria McGuire
Steaming hypocrisy Gatland appears to have renounced her past with the IRA, and obviously this has satisfied her peers and bosses in the Conservative Party, as she is happily still representing them. But no such treatment is given to Corbyn – even though any contact he had with the IRA was in the context of the peace process in Northern Ireland.


Maria Gatland 
Maria Gatland, is a councillor in the London Borough of Croydon for the Conservative Party. She is also a former Council cabinet member for education, a post she resigned from after being exposed as a former member of the Irish Republican Army. Wikipedia

You do realise that a current SERVING Conservative politician was literally a MEMBER of the IRA, right?

While the mainstream media focuses on Jeremy Corbyn’s alleged “support” for the IRA, it is conveniently ignoring a Conservative politician who actually used to be a member. And even said that:
I agreed with the shooting of British soldiers and believed the more who were killed the better.

Tory terrorist?

Maria Gatland is a Tory councillor in Croydon, South London. But in a previouslife she was known as Maria McGuire; a member of the Provisional IRA and lover of one of it’s top dogs David O’Connell. She detailed her life in the group in a book called To Take Arms: My Year With The IRA Provisionals. And she pulled no punches in describing just what she was involved in.
As The Belfast Telegraph documented in 2008, Gatland went on an arms-buying mission with O’Connell to the continent. It reported that:
O’Connell took her to the Continent on an abortive mission to buy modern arms to replace old equipment. The old stuff would malfunction during gun battles, which she said was ‘particularly annoying for the really good snipers’. Their travels took them to Zurich, Brussels, Amsterdam and Paris, but they constantly felt they were being followed. In France, McGuire wrote: ‘At one period I thought seriously about using my gun on one of our shadows’.
But after their cover was blown by a British newspaper, they were forced to flee back to Ireland. Even after Gatland admitted in a press conference that the pair were trying to buy weapons for the IRA, they were still not arrested.

Shocking words

She also said in the book:
I remember occasions where we heard late at night that a British soldier had been shot and seriously wounded in Belfast or Derry and we would hope by the morning he would be dead.
I accepted the bombing of Belfast and when civilians were accidentally blown to pieces dismissed this as one of the unfortunate effects of urban guerrilla warfare.

A change of heart

But Gatland soon began to realise that she was being “very naive”. And after the Bloody Friday bombings, when up to 22 bombs were detonated in Belfast in just over an hour, killing 11 and injuring 130, she left. Gatland said:
I was very concerned about what was happening to my country and believed joining the IRA was the way to do something about it. I began to realise it wasn’t something I wanted to be involved in and so I left. I realised violence was not the answer and I now abhor violence.
But according to The Daily Mail, her links with the IRA were only exposed because she was accidentally called “Councillor McGuire” at a Croydon council meeting. Therefore, forcing her hand to reveal her past. At the time, in 2008, she resigned as education chief of the Conservative-run council, and considered leaving the party entirely – but never actually did.

“Deeply regret”

She currently sits on the Shadow Shadow Cabinet for Children, Families and; Learning. Gatland said of her time in the Provisional IRA and rise to Tory councillor:
I wanted to put something back into the community and I think I have done since I was elected to the council. I deeply regret that I have caused problems for my colleagues who I hold in very high regard.

Steaming hypocrisy

Gatland appears to have renounced her past with the IRA, and obviously this has satisfied her peers and bosses in the Conservative Party, as she is happily still representing them. But no such treatment is given to Corbyn – even though any contact he had with the IRA was in the context of the peace process in Northern Ireland.
Gatland’s past and her ascension to some height in politics shows the utter hypocrisy at the heart of UK politics and media. While it is seemingly OK to support and be actively involved in terrorism if you’re a Tory, trying to instill a lasting peace in one of the most troubled parts of the world, if you’re a left-wing Labour politician, condemns you for the rest of your career.

Update 19/11/19
So where is Maria Gatland now? and when asking that question Im thinking of the meltdown that there would be in the Tory Media if this was a Labour minister.

Well she's still a Tory councillor of course, but noone says a word.





LINKS
https://www.collectivevoice.uk/2017/03/19/corbyn-terrorism-by-emma-campbell/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Gatland
http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/revealed-maria-gatland-s-life-ira-words/story-11363460-detail/story.html
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/maria-gatland-from-terrorist-to-tory-28457193.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1091364/The-truth-Tory-council-education-chief-used-IRA-moll.html
https://fullfact.org/online/conservative-councillor-former-ira/