Several of these ISIS bride terrorists now seem to be making attempts to get back into the countries they turned their backs on.
Shamima Begum UK.
Hoda Muthana USA
Kimberly Gwen Polman Canada
No doubt there will be others. It would be difficult to get male ex fighters back into the UK but a young female with child tugging on the heart strings. Much bigger possibility and ISIS is looking at ways to hit out to continue its cause.
Whilst as a civilise society I agree we should show compassion... however there are limits ..... I always come back to this question. If I agreed with these people being acepted back and they then decide to turn ito suicide bombers. Would I want to look in the eyes of the relatives of the dead and say it was worth it, my answer is no.
Im for protecting the many rather than the few who may or may not be safe.
Update on 20/02/19
The Bangladeshi government has declared that Shamima Begum is not a Bangladeshi citizen and that she is a British citizen by birth and has never applied for dual nationality with Bangladesh.
So that changes the ball game slightly
It beggars belief that the Home Secretary Sajid Javid would make an announcement saying that he has stripped her of British citizenship without checking if she does indeed hold dual nationality.
Without dual nationality Sajid Javid is breaking international law. Under international law, it is illegal for a country to make someone stateless by removing their citizenship.
This is sheer incompetence.
It means the baby is a British National.
It means that there will now be an expensive law suit which will be paid for by the tax payer and she will probably win. If she comes back she will probably go to prison and come out more radicalised than she went in, if that's possible.
Sajid Javid is the Home Secretary he has a wealth of resource at his disposal to check these things.
But wait more information.... turns out she would have Bangladesh citizenship by descent only if her parents registered her at a Bangladesh consulate.
The comments below were originally posted on 19/02/19 22:49
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She is a dual British-Bangladeshi national, she can be stripped of British citizenship. Its not illegal.
She wasn't groomed she actively sort out ISIS. Yes she was young and foolish but ....
She is a religious fanatic, We mean less to her and others like her, than the shit on their shoes, that's fact and that's dangerous.
Unfortunately at some stage there has to be a deterrent. The reason we don't all speed everywhere in our cars is we will lose our licence, not really a worthy comparison but hey ho.
If ISIS wasn't in retreat she would still happily be there bringing her son up as a terrorist.
If you think its safe to bring her back please post the effectiveness of de-radicalisation programs. Ill be interested to read the stats.
What will you say to the people who lose their loved ones if she decides to blow herself up and take others with her? Will you be able to look in their eyes and say it was worth it....really?
This is sheer incompetence.
It means the baby is a British National.
It means that there will now be an expensive law suit which will be paid for by the tax payer and she will probably win. If she comes back she will probably go to prison and come out more radicalised than she went in, if that's possible.
Sajid Javid is the Home Secretary he has a wealth of resource at his disposal to check these things.
But wait more information.... turns out she would have Bangladesh citizenship by descent only if her parents registered her at a Bangladesh consulate.
The comments below were originally posted on 19/02/19 22:49
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She is a dual British-Bangladeshi national, she can be stripped of British citizenship. Its not illegal.
She wasn't groomed she actively sort out ISIS. Yes she was young and foolish but ....
She is a religious fanatic, We mean less to her and others like her, than the shit on their shoes, that's fact and that's dangerous.
Unfortunately at some stage there has to be a deterrent. The reason we don't all speed everywhere in our cars is we will lose our licence, not really a worthy comparison but hey ho.
If ISIS wasn't in retreat she would still happily be there bringing her son up as a terrorist.
If you think its safe to bring her back please post the effectiveness of de-radicalisation programs. Ill be interested to read the stats.
What will you say to the people who lose their loved ones if she decides to blow herself up and take others with her? Will you be able to look in their eyes and say it was worth it....really?
She is a defacto terrorist she joined a terrorist organisation.
If she was to come back she would go to prison its a fact that in general religious fanatics come out of prison more radicalised than when they went in.
LINKS
https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-citizenship
https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_nationality_law
http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/sections_detail.php?id=242§ions_id=7472
http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/pdf_part.php?id=242
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47312207
https://www.dualcitizenship.com/countries/bangladesh.html
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/20/rights-of-shamima-begums-son-not-affected-says-javid
LINKS
https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-citizenship
https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citizen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_nationality_law
http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/sections_detail.php?id=242§ions_id=7472
http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/pdf_part.php?id=242
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47312207
https://www.dualcitizenship.com/countries/bangladesh.html
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/20/rights-of-shamima-begums-son-not-affected-says-javid
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