Monday 16 July 2018

Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit


Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit.

So whats this about then?

The President of the USA doesn't trust his own intelligence services. So what are we supposed to do with that information, why should we trust them if he doesnt?  But hang on maybe we should look outside the box.  Doesn't Trump have interests in Russia?  lets have a look.

So according to Wikipedia (probably not the most accurate place to get info but...)
Donald Trump has pursued business deals in Russia since 1987, and has sometimes traveled there to explore potential business opportunities. In 1996, Trump trademark applications were submitted for potential Russian real estate development deals. Trump's partners and children have repeatedly visited Moscow, connecting with developers and government officials to explore joint venture opportunities. Trump was never able to successfully conclude any real estate deals in Russia. However, individual Russians have invested heavily in Trump properties, and following Trump's bankruptcies in the 1990's he borrowed money from Russian sources. In 2008 his son Donald Trump Jr. said that Russia was an important source of money for the Trump businesses.
By the way isn't it interesting how certain people try to claim that Corbyn is a commie (they probably need to check the difference between Socialist and communist) and those same people think Trump is the next best thing to sliced bread but Trump is the one cuddling up to the dreaded Russians. But i digress.

Actually this Wikipedia information gets more interesting and the trouble is... it all kinda fits or am I creating a jigsaw to fit my puzzle?  Look at this little snippet.
In 1987, Trump visited Russia to investigate developing a hotel, invited by Ambassador Yuri Dubinin whom he had met in New York the year before.[3] British journalist Luke Harding alleged in 2017 that this trip likely began a long-term cultivation operation typical of the KGB's Political Intelligence Department, under written directives initiated by First Chief Directorate head Vladimir Kryuchkov, to recruit politically ambitious Westerners susceptible to flattery, egotism and greed.[3]
So "susceptible to flattery, egotism and greed" I think even the most ardent Trump supporter would have problems trying to disagree that Trump likes flattery, has an ego and greed well are rich people greedy? open for debate I guess.  Or is it? these start up CEO's made their staff millionaires are they greedy in comparison? Makes you think.
Still, Trump’s business ties to Russia are striking nonetheless. Even without access to his tax returns or venturing into conjecture about hidden business interests, it’s clear that Trump has an affinity for doing deals with Russians. Furthermore, it’s clear that his affinity for doing business with them is intertwined with how he perceives them politically; as Franklin Foer points out in Slate, Trump’s public affection for Vladimir Putin corresponds with his dependence on Russian investors.
It’s difficult to say if his praise was intended to make it easier for him to gain access to the Russian market, or if it simply arose out a sincere appreciation for Russia’s authoritarian political culture as he began to understand it more — or some combination of the two. But in either case it’s clear that Trump’s attempts at making deals in Russia have gone beyond business.
And
Donald Trump is like the Kremlin’s favored candidates, only more so. He celebrated the United Kingdom’s exit from the EU. He denounces NATO with feeling. He is also a great admirer of Vladimir Putin. Trump’s devotion to the Russian president has been portrayed as buffoonish enthusiasm for a fellow macho strongman. But Trump’s statements of praise amount to something closer to slavish devotion. In 2007, he praised Putin for “rebuilding Russia.” A year later he added, “He does his work well. Much better than our Bush.” When Putin ripped American exceptionalism in a New York Times op-ed in 2013, Trump called it “a masterpiece.” Despite ample evidence, Trump denies that Putin has assassinated his opponents, “In all fairness to Putin, you’re saying he killed people. I haven’t seen that.” In the event that such killings have transpired, they can be forgiven: “At least he’s a leader.” And not just any old head of state: “I will tell you that, in terms of leadership, he’s getting an A.”
Protesteth too much?


Hmmmm well someone is wrong...
'Nobody's been stronger on Putin than Trump'

Former secret service agent Dan Bongino has said on Fox News that "nobody's been stronger on Putin than Trump".
Mr Bongino was talking with reference to the death of Russian mercenaries in Syria, saying the American military "had the Russians scrambling".
"I don't think Putin expected Trump to respond that way," he said.
"That was not an insignificant incident over there."
He also said Mr Trump's comments about Russian gas pipelines was another example of the US president confronting the Russians.
Wouldn't be the 1st time a few expendable assets were sacrificed to protect a bigger asset.....oops did I say that out loud.

Before leaving the last word to Jonathan Marcus, BBC diplomatic correspondent ill say one thing... Corbyn suffered 2 years of media assassination which continues and a similar weight is thrown against Trump. The trouble is when you checked Corbyn you found that it was indeed that misinformation and lies. With Trump most claims lead to evidence and Trump doesn't help himself by spreading misinformation almost every time he talks, which is so easy to check.
Trump targets opponents back home Analysis by Jonathan Marcus, BBC diplomatic correspondent 
Before their encounter started Mr Putin was already winning on points, by the mere fact that President Trump was meeting him in the first place.
But while Mr Putin came over as the seasoned professional, eager to present his country as an equivalent to the US in terms of being a nuclear superpower; an energy provider; and a key actor in the Middle East, Mr Trump seemed more intent on castigating his opponents back home.
A lot of the questions focused on Russia's intrusion into the US election campaign (the considered position of the key US intelligence agencies) and specifically the indictment by the Mueller probe of 12 Russian intelligence agents.
Mr Trump would have none of it. He visibly seemed happier with Mr Putin's assurances than he did with the evidence of his own intelligence agencies. And he even welcomed Mr Putin's suggestion that Russia could join the investigation and interview the alleged perpetrators itself! Washington's Nato allies and many seasoned observers on Capitol Hill must have been watching in horror.

As always I'm always willing to be proved wrong.  Post away.

LINKS
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/russia-paid-donald-trump-millions-of-dollars
Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mind-over-money/201003/rich-people-are-greedy
How 3 Startup CEOs Gave Up Fortunes To Turn Half Their Employees Into Millionaires
Why the Rich Are Less Ethical: They See Greed as Good
Finally, A Billionaire Defends The Billions That She Earned
Fact-checking Trump's claim that he has no business ties to Russia
Vladimir Putin has a plan for destroying the West—and that plan looks a lot like Donald Trump.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819159806489591809
As it happened - Trump and Putin's landmark meeting

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