Tory incompetence has led to Proroguing of parliament

Its pretty obvious what BoJo and his crew are doing but I have to say they have played it well and how Moogy keeps a straight face I just don't know, they will probably get away with it as well. 

The main reason for proroguing parliament now, even though its the longest session ever, it to stop those who were moving to vote on stopping parliament going into recess. which would have given many more days to carry on with their debating, wheeling and dealings over brexit. Having said that I totally agree that they have had 3 years to do this, what they are doing now should have been done when they initially launched article 50. Prior to that Cameron should have run the referendum differently (don't forget Farage said when he thought he'd lost that "if remain win like 52/48 then it will be unfinished business") which split the country. 

Dictator May should have sought some form of consensus before going off and negotiating what she thought "Brexit means Brexit" should be and shouldn't have called an election which was just another attempt to be a dictator and be able to force through wat she thought "Brexit means Brexit", an election she nearly lost.  Also the 36 billion and other things should never have been negotiated away in some exit agreement. All those things should have been part of the whole pie and if the EU didn't want to negotiate on that, then that was the time to say its all or nothing.

Since then we have had varying degrees of Tory incompetence if the above wasn't enough. Grayling with his shipping company without ships is one that springs to mind. Fine to help startup companies in normal times but not in what would be in effect a state of emergency.

No one else has made these decisions the Tories alone have the blame squarely on their shoulders as much as they try and deflect responsibility on others.  It was the Tory ERG group that effectively voted down leaving in March, rejecting Mays deal. Why?  Come on Brexit means Brexit May negotiated what she thought that meant,  wasn't what others thought it meant though was it?

Same as the EU referendum we were given a simple choice Leave or Stay, however the devil is always in the detail as I covered in my recent Blog & Blog.

Even members of Johnson's own cabinet recently stated that proroguing parliament now would be undemocratic.

Nicky Morgan 

Proroguing parliament is clearly a mad suggestion” – 6th June  

I’m a member of the cabinet, I fully support the prime minister” – Thursday 29th June

Matt Hancock

Prorogation would mean the end of the Conservative party” – 6 June 

Morning, how are you? Sorry. How are you?” – Thursday 29th June

Michael Gove 

It would not be true to the best traditions of British democracy” – 9 June 

Parliamentarians will have plenty of time to debate Brexit” – Wednesday 28th June

Amber Rudd 

Nobody should consider involving the Queen” – 16 June 

I’m here on a visit to work out what’s going on in my department” – Thursday 29th June

Sajid Javid 

You don’t deliver on democracy by trashing democracy” – 16 June (said in a tweet that is now removed :-)) 

No comment” – Thursday 29th June

LINKS
The Guardian - Then and now: what senior Tories say about proroguing parliament

Jacob Rees Mogg Calls Out John Bercow & Fake Remoaner Out Rage

Lol what a load of twaddle that utuber spouts.

Its blatantly obvious what they have done and I admit they have played it well as in effect only about 4 days of parliament are actually missed, so it actually looks legit.

However what they have actually blocked is the move to have parliament not go into recess they were planning next week to vote to continue on through but can't do that now. Well played Joker Johnson and Moogy. 

I don't have a problem with the leave vote as such. I do have a problem with how it was carried out and the lies and misinformation that were told to reach that result. It should be against the law to misinform the voting public. The other problem I have is people spouting just leave it'll be fine don't listen to project fear when they are talking rubbish, they don't know and anyone that says they do is a bare faced liar. Those that do say such things might change their tune if their grandkid/s relied on some french medicine to keep them alive and those supplies might be disrupted. They might not but would you be willing to risk your kids life?

Most Brexiteers who all claimed it would be easy to get a deal and be the quickest deal we had ever done have now all changed their tune and they are all saying "there might be bumps in the road" what a fcuking understatement that is considering the Governments own recent report on the negative effects. 

No one voted for no deal we were all told by the leave campaign a deal would be quick and easy to do. Leave won the argument and the vote. That is what people voted for Leaving with a quick and easy deal. Only they were lied to.

The level of incompetence in how the Tories have run this is unprecedented and I could probably write pages on that alone.
There is noone else to blame for this situation than the Tories. Luv em. having said all that I believe there is no other way out now but no deal and suck up the pain. whatever that is.  We will still have to do a deal, the irish border will still be an issue but we'll be like a one legged man in an arse kicking competition.

Have you noticed how when England are playing anyone at football most other countries will support the other side, regardless who they are and not england and that's even the home countries.
People have got axes to grind going back hundreds of years and with a weakened UK needing deals it'll be hunting season.

Time will tell now. Lets see who out of Johnsons mini that hes driving at the EU lorry blinks 1st. Personally I wouldn't want to be in the mini. 

I voted to leave .......wasn't that simple though was it

I voted to leave .......wasn't that simple though was it

Simple wasn't it....?

However, simple is not always good.

It is possible to leave the EU and remain part of the single market.....
It is possible to stay in the single market but be outside the customs union......

The votes on the slip were to leave the house or stay in the house.

It didn't say which door to use.

As in most things the devil is in the detail.

"Brexit means Brexit" Mays favorite sound bite, except Mays version of "Brexit means Brexit" wasn't the same as anyone else's.

That's why we are in the shit we are in now. 😂😂

Why did leave win when they didn't expect to?

The leave campaign were better in putting over their misinformation and more people believed that than what Cameron was saying.

People voted leave because they were told by Leave campaign that a deal would be easy, It would be quick, we were told the government are spouting project fear by saying getting a deal would be difficult. No deal was portrayed as a worse case scenario and project fear, project fear, project fear how many times did we hear project fear spouted.  The fact that a very complex issue was brought down to two selections on a voting slip is more evidence of the Tories mismanagement of this whole issue. When the majority ticked the leave box they were voting to leave with a deal because that is what the leave campaign sold to everyone. Now I'm sure some will claim higher knowledge, better foresight than most. But if they do possess those abilities they were in the minority. The majority of the small majority, voted to leave with a deal.

Just to put some clarity on why we have such a problem at present, the so called majority wasn't much of a majority. In fact if it had been an election it would have been a hung parliament. So now you should be able to understand why we have the problems we do, the country is split.

Also the amount of EU myths and misinformation spouted about the EU was ramped up by media like the Mail, Telegraph, Express, Times, the Sun etc went into overdrive and as stupid as most of these were (Curved bananas, Cabbage documentation, Bombay mix renamed, the list went on and on and it was all absolute bollox) a hell of a lot of people took it hook line an sinker and I still come across people that believe some of it to this day.

The fact is project fear wasn't project fear but project reality. It hasn't proven to be easy to get a deal and certainly hasn't been quick. If we leave without a deal no one knows what damage will possibly be done and it certainly won't be easier to get one after. Once we leave we will still have to negotiate a deal and the problems will still be there. I fear the UK will be like a one legged man in an arse kicking contest at that point.

What's really sad is not that there was so much misinformation that it was impossible for anyone to make a balanced decision. Its the fact that people actually believed the horse shit that was put out by the leave campaign. With not one shred of evidence that things would be better, people would be better off they voted for it. Hook line and sinker following the will of the rich media owners, the corporations and the Rich Brexiteers. This hasn't been project fear its been Project Tax evasion, a project to turn the UK into a nice little tax haven away from the EU tax laws. That wont benefit you or me though, oh no you and me will be screwed. Time will tell. 

But One thing is clear Boris has no plan to get a deal. No one has a valid idea that they are willing to put any detail on to solved the irish border.... Noone... they havnt got a scooby and the EU has always said, come up with a viable, credible solution and we'll talk. Noone has , no one will, so Joker Johnsons only plan is No Deal see what happens. It has been a shambles from start to finish a shambles that only the totally incompetent Tories are to blame for. Noone else, there is no shifting of blame here. If they had run it right we would be out.

While i'm on the subject would you expect a leading billionaire backer of brexit to bet for or against british companies if we leave with no deal?
Well he bet 500 million that they would lose value.....
Anyone want to bet against him and bet they'll go up? Stick a £500 bet on the ft250 going up after no deal and post the betting slip on here.....


LINKS
https://youtu.be/w87GNWJHtFM
https://youtu.be/uLFo6XOoXF0
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/single-market-brexit-eu-trade-deals-what-is-uk-leave-european-union-why-a8557176.html