Sunday 24 June 2018

Jane Fonda betrayed POWs - Not True

Did Jane Fonda betray POWs as per the email and post doing the rounds again.

The facts are, Jerry Driscoll in the video below, states that these claims about himself and Larry Carrigan are NOT TRUE, you cant get better than the truth from the actual person.

Heres part of the post doing the rounds on face Book, the full text is posted below the links

Barbara Walters writes:
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during the Vietnam War.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho LoPrison, the "Hanoi Hilton."
Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "peace activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward onto the camp commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.




Just to clarify I'm only commenting on whether the supposed facts in the below email are true or false. 

They are FALSE, its all rubbish.

Whether she should have gone to Hanoi or had a picture taken is another matter.



https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4488407/jerry-driscoll
Blame Jane Falsehoods
Did Jane Fonda Betray American POWs in North Vietnam?
How Jane Fonda’s 1972 trip to North Vietnam earned her the nickname ‘Hanoi Jane’
What Did Jane Fonda Really Do Over in Hanoi?
Jane Fonda Urban Legends
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/janefonda25apr05.shtml
Myth Blaster – Hanoi Jane Fonda, “100 Greatest Women” Jul 25
The Truth About My Trip To Hanoi


Barbara Walters writes:
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during the Vietnam War.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho LoPrison, the "Hanoi Hilton."
Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "peace activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward onto the camp commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hanoi Hilton". . . The first three of which his family only knew he was "missing in action." His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. . . At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper...
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development adviser in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.
I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Banme Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.)
We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received. . . and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as "humane and lenient."
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.
These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget. . . "100 Years of Great Women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer, and she needs to know that we will never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt,
USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron,
Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343

Tuesday 19 June 2018

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse


This goes all the way to the top ......

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) in England and Wales was announced by the British Home Secretary, Theresa May, on 7 July 2014. The inquiry was established to examine how the country's institutions handled their duty of care to protect children from sexual abuse.
It was set up after investigations in 2012 and 2013 into the Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal revealed widespread abuse, including claims of abuse stretching back over decades by prominent media and political figures, and inadequate safeguarding by institutions and organisations responsible for child welfare.

So far 3 chairs have stepped down now some might say that, that's a bit unusual?

Materials found at National ArchivesIn January 2015, an academic researcher found in The National Archives a reference to a file regarding allegations of "unnatural" sexual behaviour taking place at Westminster that probably went to the Prime Minister in the early 1980s. The file was entitled "Allegations against former public [missing word] of unnatural sexual proclivities; security aspects 1980 Oct 27 - 1981 Mar 20." The file remains classified as it contained information from the security services and Law Officers. The Cabinet Office stated that any pertinent files would be made available to the forthcoming Independent Panel Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse.

Scope

Justice Goddard announced on 27 November 2015 that 12 separate investigations would be undertaken. These would cover:[9]
  • Children in the care of Lambeth Council
  • Children in the care of Nottinghamshire councils
  • Cambridge House, Knowl View and Rochdale Council
  • Child sexual abuse in the Anglican Church
  • Child sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic Church
  • The sexual abuse of children in custodial institutions
  • Child sexual abuse in residential schools
  • The internet and child sexual abuse
  • Child exploitation by organised networks
  • The protection of children outside the United Kingdom
  • Accountability and reparations for victims and survivors
  • Allegations of child sexual abuse linked to Westminster
She said that the scale of the inquiry was unprecedented, and that it would take five years, but she was determined that it would succeed. She added that all the investigations would start immediately, and that most if not all would include public hearings.


More to update.........


"I was taken to one side and it was made clear to me, I was told that Theresa May was going to be the Prime Minister, this inquiry was going to be part of this, and that if I didn't toe the line and do I was told, if I tried to get information out, I would be discredited by her advisors."
Evans also claimed that, when talking to the Home Affairs Select Committee, she was given a 23-page document of what she should say and told then-chair Keith Vaz "I fear that I may not be able to tell the truth because I have been told what I may and may not say."  
Although Evans and her colleagues were promised the inquiry would be independent, she told John "there was no independence" and the confidentiality clause imposed on all panel members facilitated the "suppression" of the truth.
When asked who wanted to suppress the information, she said "my belief is that it was the Home Office."

LINKS
Wikipedia: Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse
Child abuse inquiry member: 'I was silenced in 2015 to ensure Theresa May could become Prime Minister'
The Westminster child abuse ‘coverup’: how much did MPs know?
Edwardian house at heart of a long-simmering sex scandal

UPDATED
TheLondonEconomic: Westminster child sex abuse probe hears how parties and police covered up abuse

Wednesday 13 June 2018

Trumps smoke and mirrors veil the real deal

So if Trump had managed to pull off an agreement from North Korea to denuclearise I would have taken my hat off to him (not that I wear one, but anyway...)



However in summary what we find is
  • Trump handed the North Korean dictator a respectability card never dished out before by an American president.
  • What did Trump "the great negotiator" get in return? Looking through the veil of the smoke and mirrors it appears to be nothing of substance.
  • Trump seems to have forged forward, casting aside all human rights issues, purely again on a vanity stunt, just so he can claim to the blinkered faithful. "I achieved what no other US president did" when all other Presidents could have done the same if they had been prepared to toss aside the horrendous human rights issues that North Korean has.
  • We've achieved an agreement from North Korean to completely denuclearise ..... Sorry what!!... no you haven't ... more smoke and mirrors. Turns out all that was agreed was a working towards denuclearisation, totally different.
  • Lol Trump just recently withdrew from a 110 page agreement with Iran only to wave around a two page document with nothing of substance on it as if hes achieved something other than legitimising a Dictator, you couldn't make it up.

So setting aside all the smoke, mirrors and look at me how great I am. What did we actually see achieved.  These are the actual points from the signed agreement.

1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.
2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.
3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work towards complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

"Put simply, Kim is saying he’ll get rid of his nuclear weapons only when Russia, China, the US and everyone else gets rid of theirs."
Hmmmm now where have we heard that before?

Oh yes that would be the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons Entered into force 1970 and extended indefinitely in 1995.
 Article VI: Each party "undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a Treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control".
So for  48 years the members of this treaty have been forging ahead negotiating on complete disarmament ..... except they haven't. Trump couldn't even get Kim to sign back up to this treaty, at least that would have been something more official.

Instead hes come out with .... NOTHING with regard to nuclear weapons.

What a joke!

Kim will party on this achievement for years and rightly so. Hes negotiated with the biggest power on earth and gave away absolutely nothing.

LINKS
The full text of the Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un statement
Trump really has achieved a historic breakthrough – for the Kim dynasty
North and South Korean leaders promise 'lasting peace' for peninsula 
Trump Kim summit: US president lauds deal despite scepticism

Wednesday 6 June 2018

Tommy Robinson & the trial was over Myth

 Q:  Was the Trial of grooming gang at the sentencing point on 25 May 2018?  

This is an important question as it means that if it wasn't then Robinson's actions should be questioned.


These are the most frequent claims put out in defence of Tommy Robinsons actions.

  1. Trail was over defendant's were being sentenced on the 25th May 2018 ~ 
    1.  No it wasnt and trial is still ongoing as of 6/6/18
  2. Reporting restrictions were protecting the Grooming gang ~ 
    1. No they werent, reporting restrictions are imposed in cases like this to protect the children involved.
  3. Tommy was just letting the British public know the full extent of the charges against the defendants ~ 
    1. Whatever his agenda was it wasnt in the interests of the children.
    2. By doing what he was doing outside the court he risked the grooming gang getting off on a technicality, in fact this is still a possibility as the trial is ongoing.

As can be seen below from court details on 25th the trial was ongoing.
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Court Docket

http://www.thelawpages.com/court-hearin ... esults.php

29/5/18
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 10:25
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 11:00 - 10:46
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 12:17
Trial (Part Heard) - Reporting Restrictions Lifted - 12:52
Trial (Part Heard) - Jury retire to consider verdict - 13:15
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 15:54
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:30 - 16:00

The restricting reporting lifted refers to Tommy Robinson debacle.
Looks like case continues 10:30 am tomorrow.

30/5/2018
Trial (Part Heard) - Jury retire to consider verdict - 10:32
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 09:45 - 15:59

Jury back to deliberations tomorrow,

31/5/2018
Today there are developments in GROUP 1 case T20177269
abdul rehman
amere singh dhaliwal
irfan ahmed
mohammed rizwan aslam
mohammed kammer
nahman mohammed
raj singh barsran
zahid hassan

For Sentence - Prosecution Opening - 10:34
For Sentence - Case adjourned until 14:00 - 11:28
For Sentence - Resume - 14:04
For Sentence - Case adjourned until 09:45 - 14:28
For Sentence - Case adjourned until 10:30 - 14:28

1/6/2018
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 09:53 - 09:51
Trial (Part Heard) - Jury retire to consider verdict - 11:04
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 11:12 - 11:11
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:30 - 12:54
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:00 - 12:54

4/6/2018
Case T20177269 (Group1)
U20180121 Scheduled For Sentence U20180121

For Sentence - Resume - 10:29
For Sentence - Case adjourned until 10:30 - 10:47


Cases T20177360, T20187130 (Group 2)
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 13:45 - 13:40
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 14:23
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:30 - 14:27
Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 16:24
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:00 - 16:25

5/6/2018
Case T20177269 (Group1)
For Sentence - Resume - 10:39
For Sentence - Case adjourned until 10:00 - 11:02


Cases T20177360, T20187130 (Group 2)
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:09 - 10:08
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 12:15
Trial (Part Heard) - Verdict to be taken - 12:16
Trial (Part Heard) - Hearing finished for FAISAL NADEEM - 12:45
Trial (Part Heard) - Case to be listed for Sentence on 22-Jun-2018 - 12:54

6/6/2018
Case T20177269 (Group1)
For Sentence - Resume - 11:49
For Sentence - Case adjourned until 12:15 - 12:13
For Sentence - Resume - 12:16
For Sentence - Case adjourned until 10:30 - 12:28


Cases T20177360, T20187130 (Group 2)
Not Scheduled... case over? (Report back June 22)

7/6/2018
Case T20177269 (Group1)
For Sentence - Resume - 10:29



LINKS
https://randomtopics.org/viewtopic.php?f=152&t=1958
http://www.thelawpages.com/court-hearings-lists/crown-court-lists-hearing-results.php
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39580591
http://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2018/05/tommy-robinson-and-reporting.html
https://www.examiner.co.uk/news/trial-dates-set-29-people-13022848
https://www.courtserve.net/courtlists/viewcourtlist2014.php?courtlist=leeds_T180607.01.htm&type=crlists